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Fuck, that really had something. Fuck.
0:13
Now you’re very close—yes. You two were completely inside it.
0:23
Ricky’s felt more performative. That worked too.
0:28
Ricky, you felt outside it; the two of them were inside.
0:33
You project from outside.
0:36
[inaudible] projection. What do you mean?
0:38
I’m not telling you.
0:40
Whose projection?
0:42
Not telling you.
0:44
[inaudible]
0:46
Fuck, that was so good. That feeling was perfect.
0:50
That thing... yes. It had this quality—
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A cinematic quality, not a theatrical one.
0:59
It wasn’t shouted with force, yet every word drew the feeling out.
1:18
I was thinking: suppose you two...
1:24
said these lines in bed. Could you do that?
1:28
Who?
1:31
A and B?
1:32
No, not A and B. B and C.
1:35
Most of the time...
1:39
C would be lying down, with B above her.
1:45
What do you mean by “above”?
1:47
You said “sex”... [inaudible]
1:50
The exact form doesn’t matter.
1:54
It’s more this state: one of you above the other.
1:59
Then C is in... [inaudible].
2:04
A stays outside, facing outward.
2:07
You rarely look at them.
2:09
And you keep...
2:15
imagining yourself speaking to them.
2:20
As if you’re trying to draw them out.
2:24
Draw the two of us out?
2:27
Imagine entering B or C. [inaudible]
2:36
No, not that. That never crossed my mind.
2:40
That? I hadn’t even thought of it.
2:42
I didn’t say anything.
2:44
No, no, no.
2:46
Not that. I mean the inner psychological state.
2:50
Go on, go on.
2:51
Okay. Can we try it?
2:53
Keep it close to what you just did.
2:55
You can use more eye contact,
2:59
and bring in more physical action.
3:02
And B and C need a dynamic of domination and submission.
3:08
It can reverse, of course.
3:10
At times, you can both let the tension go.
3:14
At times C moves above, with B below.
3:19
None of that is fixed yet.
3:21
But A can’t see either of them.
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You stay outside, listening to their dialogue.
3:28
You react immediately,
3:30
then bring it back into the way you speak.
3:36
Mm.
3:37
Does that make sense?
3:39
That’s hard.
3:40
You two stay on this bed.
3:45
And you stay here, facing outward.
3:48
Oh, wow.
3:49
Just listen to them.
3:50
So we have no contact with A?
3:53
Right.
3:54
We were making eye contact before.
3:56
Right. No need.
3:57
B and C have no awareness of A at all.
4:00
Only B and C interact.
4:03
A faces outward.
4:07
Okay, I understand.
4:09
But the two of us seem [inaudible]. I’m not quite following.
4:12
It’s a power dynamic.
4:14
But it is a viscous kind of power dynamic.
4:18
I think you should just lie flat.
4:20
But lying flat, how do you make eye contact?
4:23
She can turn.
4:24
No, then they’re equal.
4:26
I want an imbalance.
4:28
Get two chairs. Lie on the chairs?
4:30
No. I want an unequal dynamic.
4:32
Okay, you can look.
4:34
Okay, lie down first. Suppose you sit astride her...
4:37
No, no—over there. Right there.
4:42
Lie like that. It’s messy. Yes—keep it that messy.
4:46
You just... yes...
4:51
Yes, exactly.
4:52
And me? What do I do?
4:53
You... sit astride her.
4:56
Yes, yes, exactly.
4:59
That look. Get more shots of their eye contact.
5:03
Jesus... We haven’t memorized the lines yet, so...
5:06
Okay.
5:07
Right. Can’t see it.
5:08
We still need the script, you know? So the eye contact...
5:11
Just keep it close to the feeling you had before.
5:16
Mumbling is fine. The words needn’t be perfectly clear.
5:21
Ricky, all you can do is listen to their dialogue.
5:27
You speak outward,
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as if to the audience.
5:36
But that howl might also break through—
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and reach inside you.
5:41
I give up.
5:43
Not necessarily a howl.
5:44
But there is a kind of pain in you—
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a pain that can’t be expressed.
5:51
Intense pain.
5:53
Hold on. I’ll adjust the camera position.
5:57
I think lying flat works better now. It’s not because I’m shy.
6:02
Why not lie down first and feel it for yourself?
6:06
Lie flat?
6:07
But I want a power dynamic between the two of you.
6:12
Can she?
6:14
Two people can’t have sex with both lying flat.
6:18
That feels more like afterward.
6:21
That’s one possible form?
6:23
You can prop yourself up and look at her like that.
6:27
Yes, exactly.
6:28
Only with one above the other can they make eye contact.
6:32
Lying flat kills eye contact.
6:34
Why can’t they face each other?
6:36
How would they face each other?
6:38
Then there’s no power.
6:39
I want the power reversed.
6:41
She props herself up and looks at her?
6:43
That has no power dynamic.
6:45
Power doesn’t have to look like this.
6:47
Oh, come on...
6:49
Anyway... Just think about it—
6:53
Gender doesn’t matter.
6:55
I don’t think that matters.
6:58
This isn’t about men and women.
7:04
B and C are both female leads.

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