Fuck, that really had something. Fuck.
Now you’re very close—yes. You two were completely inside it.
Ricky’s felt more performative. That worked too.
Ricky, you felt outside it; the two of them were inside.
You project from outside.
[inaudible] projection. What do you mean?
I’m not telling you.
Whose projection?
Not telling you.
[inaudible]
Fuck, that was so good. That feeling was perfect.
That thing... yes. It had this quality—
A cinematic quality, not a theatrical one.
It wasn’t shouted with force, yet every word drew the feeling out.
I was thinking: suppose you two...
said these lines in bed. Could you do that?
Who?
A and B?
No, not A and B. B and C.
Most of the time...
C would be lying down, with B above her.
What do you mean by “above”?
You said “sex”... [inaudible]
The exact form doesn’t matter.
It’s more this state: one of you above the other.
Then C is in... [inaudible].
A stays outside, facing outward.
You rarely look at them.
And you keep...
imagining yourself speaking to them.
As if you’re trying to draw them out.
Draw the two of us out?
Imagine entering B or C. [inaudible]
No, not that. That never crossed my mind.
That? I hadn’t even thought of it.
I didn’t say anything.
No, no, no.
Not that. I mean the inner psychological state.
Go on, go on.
Okay. Can we try it?
Keep it close to what you just did.
You can use more eye contact,
and bring in more physical action.
And B and C need a dynamic of domination and submission.
It can reverse, of course.
At times, you can both let the tension go.
At times C moves above, with B below.
None of that is fixed yet.
But A can’t see either of them.
You stay outside, listening to their dialogue.
You react immediately,
then bring it back into the way you speak.
Mm.
Does that make sense?
That’s hard.
You two stay on this bed.
And you stay here, facing outward.
Oh, wow.
Just listen to them.
So we have no contact with A?
Right.
We were making eye contact before.
Right. No need.
B and C have no awareness of A at all.
Only B and C interact.
A faces outward.
Okay, I understand.
But the two of us seem [inaudible]. I’m not quite following.
It’s a power dynamic.
But it is a viscous kind of power dynamic.
I think you should just lie flat.
But lying flat, how do you make eye contact?
She can turn.
No, then they’re equal.
I want an imbalance.
Get two chairs. Lie on the chairs?
No. I want an unequal dynamic.
Okay, you can look.
Okay, lie down first. Suppose you sit astride her...
No, no—over there. Right there.
Lie like that. It’s messy. Yes—keep it that messy.
You just... yes...
Yes, exactly.
And me? What do I do?
You... sit astride her.
Yes, yes, exactly.
That look. Get more shots of their eye contact.
Jesus... We haven’t memorized the lines yet, so...
Okay.
Right. Can’t see it.
We still need the script, you know? So the eye contact...
Just keep it close to the feeling you had before.
Mumbling is fine. The words needn’t be perfectly clear.
Ricky, all you can do is listen to their dialogue.
You speak outward,
as if to the audience.
But that howl might also break through—
and reach inside you.
I give up.
Not necessarily a howl.
But there is a kind of pain in you—
a pain that can’t be expressed.
Intense pain.
Hold on. I’ll adjust the camera position.
I think lying flat works better now. It’s not because I’m shy.
Why not lie down first and feel it for yourself?
Lie flat?
But I want a power dynamic between the two of you.
Can she?
Two people can’t have sex with both lying flat.
That feels more like afterward.
That’s one possible form?
You can prop yourself up and look at her like that.
Yes, exactly.
Only with one above the other can they make eye contact.
Lying flat kills eye contact.
Why can’t they face each other?
How would they face each other?
Then there’s no power.
I want the power reversed.
She props herself up and looks at her?
That has no power dynamic.
Power doesn’t have to look like this.
Oh, come on...
Anyway... Just think about it—
Gender doesn’t matter.
I don’t think that matters.
This isn’t about men and women.
B and C are both female leads.